Last night, members of the Chuuk Political Status Commission (CPSC) aka Chuuk Separatists returned to Hilo to lead another community meeting with about 20 Chuukese citizens. I was hoping they would bring new information, strategies, reports, data, and all pertinent information to help the citizens be informed voters. Again, they failed to bring any of these information and also failed to address the crucial concerns for Chuukese citizens currently living in the United States. As a Chuukese citizen married to an American with US-born children, I am personally alarmed by the incredible naivete of the commissioners, the misinformation, and the absence of solid evidence for success. Here’s why I think every Chuukese citizen in the United States (i.e. Guam, Hawaii, US mainland) should be very alarmed as well.
Nation-Building Takes Leadership, Time, Money
If history informs us of anything, the Chuuk Separatists should have been upfront with the fact that nation-building is a very difficult undertaking. It requires incredibly inspirational leadership, expertise, time and money all of which Chuuk currently lacks. Chuuk lacks nation-builders with the caliber of Nelson Mandela who united people to form a new South Africa. We lack the same kind of wise leaders as those who formed our respective island nations of the FSM (e.g., Tosiwo Nakayama, Andon Amaraich, Betwel Henry, John Mangefel), the Republic of Palau (Haruo Remeliik, Lazarus Salii), and Republic of the Marshall Islands (Amata Kabua) to name a few of our own.
The Chuuk Separatists were quick to claim that the Republic of Chuuk can be formed by the March 2017 General Elections. Yet when asked if there is money for this endeavor and the years it will take to set up the structures, government, negotiate treaties, etc…they had no clear answer.
Forming an independent country takes years; it took the FSM and the Marshall Islands from 1975 to 1986 (over 11 years) to finally formalize the current Compact of Free Association treaty with the Unites States. Palau took longer because they fought for certain rights that FSM and RMI gave up.
Unrealistic and Confusing Timeline
At their Hilo meeting, the commissioners gave an unconvincing timeline that has no basis in reality. According to Mr. Asor, if the referendum for Chuuk secession passes in the March 2015 election, then the following series of nation-building activities will occur (see actual photo of handwritten timeline):
- April – Oct. 2015 (3 months): Election of Delegates to Constitutional Convention to write a new Constitution for Republic of Chuuk
- Nov. – Jan. 2016 (3 months): Constitutional Convention
- Feb. – Apr. 2016 (4 months): Education for Self Government (ESG)
- March 3, 2017: General Election & Referendum on new Chuuk Constitution. If it passes…Republic of Chuuk begins. FSM Passport & all right of entry to US for Chuukese citizens cease
- April 2017: Republic of Chuuk begins negotiations with US for Compact
If all goes well, then the Commissioners predict the Republic of Chuuk will begin after the March 2017 General Elections & Referendum on the new constitution for the Republic of Chuuk.
And now the really scary part: Mr. Asor publicly admitted that the FSM passport for all Chuukese citizens will become obsolete. And the Right of Entry to the US to live, work, seek medical care, attend school as guaranteed under the FSM Compact will cease for Chuukese citizens in 2017.
But, he was also quick to say that the Commission hopes to have negotiated with the US for a similar Compact of Free Association (COFA) for the Republic of Chuuk to protect Chuukese citizens already living in the US. These “negotiations” with the US, he said would occur the same time the constitutional convention is happening.
When asked exactly whether the commission or the State of Chuuk has the authority to “negotiate” with the government of the United States while we are still a mere state in the country of the FSM the commissioners had no intelligent answers. Commissioner Asor, the AG for Chuuk State admitted the obvious…that the State of Chuuk has no diplomatic authority to start any Compact negotiations with the US while we are still a part of the FSM.
When challenged about their misplaced confidence in securing a COFA with the US by April 2017 to protect Chuukese citizens already in the US (remember, it took FSM 11 years of hard fought negotiations), the commissioners simply had no answer.
When asked what will happen to the Chuukese citizens in the US while the negotiations for a Chuuk Compact takes place…they also had no answer, but had plenty of emotional appeals for Chuukese citizens to trust them.
Compact for Chuuk: Near Impossible Today
The commissioners exuded an almost eerie and arrogant self-confidence in the United States’ willingness to form a Compact with the Republic of Chuuk. Their reason: “it’s in their national interest.” How they can possibly know that without having preliminary talks with the United States government is beyond me. I think they have made some major erroneous assumptions about the US.
It doesn’t take a historian or diplomat to understand that the US and the global community have drastically changed from when the FSM, Palau, and RMI Compacts were under negotiations in the 70’s – 80’s. The threats of the Cold War with the communist nation of the USSR has been practically non-existent since the late 1980s. Our region of the Pacific isn’t as important a strategic location as was the case before the Berlin Wall fell in 1989.
Immigration policies and sentiments in the United States have changed even more dramatically since the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001; now, the Republican Party of President Ronald Reagan who ratified the Compact by signing US Public Law 108-188 on November 3, 1986 is much more anti-immigrants than before. Chuukese politicians have squandered millions of Compact funds on public funds so a Republic of Chuuk is already starting at a greater disadvantage in its negotiating terms with the US and any other allies of the US.
TTPI Chuuk is Not the Same as COFA Chuuk
The commissioners seemed to be stuck in a time capsule from the Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands (TTPI) without full understanding of today’s Compact of Free Association (COFA) realities. They kept referring to the Compact negotiations of the post-TTPI years while neglecting the reality of the thousands of Chuukese citizens currently living in the United States protected by the COFA.
It’s a different time in our islands. Back when the FSM, Palau, RMI island nations were being formed we all held TTPI passports issued by the US government. Even then our citizens could not travel freely in and out the US except for college students who were issued the I-20 student visa. Today, there are thousands of Chuukese citizens in the US under the FSM Compact who will stand to be displaced, deemed illegal aliens and be left ineligible to live and work in the US…unless the Republic of Chuuk succeeds in negotiating the terms of a COFA with the US. And how long will that take?
Conclusion
Perhaps a Republic of Chuuk is a viable option. I am a proud Chuukese who wants nothing more than to see an independent Chuuk that can stand on its own merits and strength and not at the mercy of any other nation. But I am also a realist. I know that today thousands of Chuukese citizens like myself have chosen to leave our beloved Chuuk to seek better opportunities in the US. And I am fully aware (as we all should) that being allowed into this country of the US with just our own FSM passport is the greatest privilege (not right). For any Chuukese leader to ask Chuukese citizens in the US to risk it all by stepping off the cliff with them blindly is preposterous.
I admire the commissioners’ confidence in negotiating a new COFA for the new Republic of Chuuk. But it will take at least 11 years during which Chuukese citizens in the US will no longer be able to stay in the US until a new Compact with the Republic of Chuuk is signed the US Congress and ratified by whoever the US President will be. It is simply wrong for the Chuuk Separatists to give false hopes to Chuukese citizens already living in the US that they could stay in the US while the Republic of Chuuk is being formed. We are not stupid to follow you off your suicidal cliff if you have not built a safety net below for all Chuukese citizens. If we cannot put an injunction on the Chuuk independence vote on the March ballots, then let’s all vote NO. Too much is at risk.
Dr. Vid Raatior
Dr. Vid Raatior is a proud Chuukese parent, educator, citizen blogger, and social entrepreneur living in the US.
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Thanks Vid. The late honorable Andon L. Amaraich once said, ” FONESI CHUUK ARE FORESI CHUUK?”
Chuuk, Chuuk, if you don’t have a good reason for doing a thing, you have one good reason for letting it alone.
I totally agree with you
After reading all this makes me really worried…I am a F.S.M citizen small family of my own living in the united states, if that is how long it would take for chuuk to negotiate then what would we do? That is my question..
I am from weno mwan chuuk, F.S.M, never in my life have I ever been this worried.
Now all I can think of is my families future, I would just like to share this you all out there reading this I for one never voted before, Utah never had a box for people to vote..we could use the need of one right now..I vote a big (No) we are ok rite now..big families in mwan side of chuuk I am sure there there on my side…we will send the message across the ocean..that! That is not the plan for now…thank you
Mr.Ichin Niosamuch
very scary i tell you.that was my main point in my first post. What will happen to the chuuk citizens that are already living in the U.S? all the hard labor and the life they already built,would it be a lost cost and all for nothing?..i think its only fair that every one of us here in the U.S have solid proof and or guarantees that this plan will pull through.because it isnt easy living back home as much as building a life here in the U.S.
Vid thanks for all the information you shared with all the chuukese citizens living anywhere in this world, I joined you and the rest of the people who really love chuuk the most, we should all continue our effort to encourage our people to vote no. Vid we still have 2 months before the election, I vote no on the resolution because their is an illegal parts of the law that create the chuuk politician status commission. I believed that the law that create the CPSC should be amended first in order to passed the resolution.
Kilisou ren ei onouokusun pworous.
The repeating comment I hear from the supporters of this movement is in regards to this “future” compact between Chuuk and the US. It blows my mind to think that there are those that believe this is a guarantee and on top of that, that the financial assistance if any will be the same or more. Your article is right and it needs to be translated so that everyone has the benefit of reading a well thought out and factual piece on this movement.
I don’t understand. Weren’t we supposed to vote first before we outlined a timeline?
Thanks be to God he still allows us to live in this world with all these circumstances that are either challenging the growth of our character as individuals and and as a group. On the other hand, these circumstances are strengthening the fibers of our characters. I believe that is why we should think more of others more than of ourselves so that God’s wisdom could be revealed more clearly to others. Then others will then reveal it to us in return.
Saying such I am filled with gratitude that talents are revealed through our concerned citizens and hope we all continue to further educate our fellow uneducated ones and even some of the educated ones to consider the consequences that we will face in the future as results of division. I strongly believe that it is everybody’s interest that Unity stands. If I’m not mistaken there is a saying that goes like this: United we stand, Divided we fall. So if there division in our minds I believe that is what ignites the division desire from the FSM.
May I humbly ask that we try to maintain the moral of that particular saying in order for us to sustain our capability to develop in the future. Ok it enough…..
Thank a lot lets all vote No so the Unity stands.
Why would anyone vote yes for a new government without structure, planning, and/or money to start it? They’re trying to put the Chuukese citizens into a cannon and start shooting in the dark. They have no idea where we’ll land.
I vote NO!
I personally don’t think that educating the citizens of Chuuk will make a “big difference” right now, between TODAY and the day of the General Election & Referendum on new Chuuk Constitution…if it passes!!!! Are u F@k!n kidding me? If it took over ten years for FSM and RMI to negotiate the Independence nation wih US to finally formalized COFA, It is already a fact dat two years out from march 2015 will not result in success….so I’m down with a BIG FAT NO!
Ekiekioj, kapachoj oh inetiojuu site OSUPWANG, nesor me ponon.
Vid,
Four things:
1. Please try to clarify to your readers/followers that our “Timeline” we discussed was an illustration of the process being worked out. As Commissioner Mailo pointed out, some of those dates dates could be established in the enabling law (i.e. the ConCon and referendum/effective dates), and not necessarily as shown on my timeline illustration.
2. .The post referendum impact on your FSM passports (i.e. after the tentative 2017 referendum), we said we would anticipate some transition of authorities, including the FSM passport validity based on the proposed post March/2015 dialogue with the FSM and the US (under items 2 and 3 in the time line). As pointed out in our Hilo discussion, a major part of the Commission’s work is to seek a separate Chuuk-US Compact of Free Association outside of the existing FSM-US Compact relationship. The separate Chuuk-US Compact of Free Association will ensure that Chuukese continue to have right of entry into the US, including your property rights (which are guaranteed to you under the US Constitution as you obtained them during your legal stays in the US).
3. I am not sure about the basis of Representative Keiuo William’s point that our Status Commission law, and the Commission Report provision, is illegal. Of course we will work with the Legislature if they indeed have such a finding. We are not aware of any.
4. Please also point out that the Commission and Chuuk State are about sure that given scheduled economic, revenue-generating activities in Chuuk for the next two years at least, there could be available funding for the Constitutional Convention and the Independence movement into the next few years. This has already become an official state program and the state attaches priority to it, and of course you and the Chuukese public are free to express opinions relevant thereto.
5. I personally do not see the comparison of the time involved between the current Chuuk State Independent Movement and the former TTPI movement during the late Tosiuo Nakayama and Andon Amaraich days as a major negative factor against voting YES in March, 2015. The opposition seems to be that because it took Nakayama and Andon and others 11 years to seek independence and Free Association for Micronesia, how can Chuuk seek independence within three to five years?
Remember that the Chuuk Commission is working at a time of electronics internet, with existing records from those past efforts, and sufficient studies and reports from FSM audit reports, chuuk and fsm annual budget appropriations and revenue projections, development plans, GAO studies on Compact non-performances, etc. Some of the Commission information with the Secretariat even show comparative studies about independent island nations, including the Carribean Islands, and studies about economic assistance to the Pacific island nations from Chjiina, EU, Japan, Taiwan, in addition to the Compact assistance from the US. The focus should be on the quality of the work and information available within the given time, not the comparative number of years per se.
Finally, it is too bad you did not give equal time to the points by the Commissioners on each of the issues discussed before you editorialize the reporting. This forum of course is subject to our overall editorial discretion as the webmaster, but one of the countervailing points I would make sure the audience know about was the reported assurance by the Chuuk State Government (Governor Elimo) that even if the March 2015 is YES, and Chuuk State begins working on those taks shown in items #1 to #3 on our Timeline above, if Chuuk State finds that the dangers in its pursuit for Independence would outweighed the benefits to the Chuukese people under the existing FSM Federation arrangement, including those Chuukese living in the US jurisdictions, then Chuuk will have to reconsider or reorient its pursuit to ensure everybody’s wellbeing.
But for now, since nobody (i.e. including even the Chuukese leaders in the FSM Government) has put forth any realistic way for Chuuk to remain in the FSM and be able to find solutions to its projected $21 million financial shortfall after 2023, then Chuuk will resort to its right to survival and pursue ways that can accommodate both of its responsibilities: a Chuuk State’s financial survival arrangement that can also secure the US Chuukese communities’ well-being in the US.
It’s an awfully difficult task, but one that must be addressed from both ends.
NOTE: Do you still need the written interview questions after our Hilo hearing? Let us know because we thought you might no longer need them, given your and Mr Sam Nathan’s endless viewpoints.
Thank you for the help and the opportunity. Happy New Year to all.
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Thank you, sir, for making the points yourself to help our confusion. Please don’t take these viewpoints as attacks on the commission’s efforts; we love Chuuk as much as you folks. We’re confused and concerned about the lack of information provided by the commission. Having said that, I think it’s for the benefit of the people for you to answer the questions I sent you so I can publish them verbatim as promised.
true!this is not a attack against our leaders n the decisions they make. this kinds of situations is scary..we are simply sharing our thoughts to understand better and seek more answers.because at the end we are all part of this and this is our island,our people and our future on the line.
tirow womi our great leaders pwan tirow womi my fellow chuukese ai tong ngeni kemi meinisin but please lets all take a moment and think about this before we make any decision!
Its not an attack on our commissioners, of course not but the thought of our families…today I stand with one question..forgive me if I’ve been misinformed but rumors have it that our leaders have not even discuss or informed the u.s about chuuk going on its own or independent….My qustion those the u.s have any pardon on this plan our leaders have for our islands?
Dear Sabi and Vid —
The reference to the “timetable” in the negotiation and implementation of the first Compact, with the first round of talks with the US commencing in 1969 (not 1975, Vid) until the entry into force of the treaty for the two parties in 1986, was intended for illustrative purposes — specifically, to show that such undertaking will take time, sustained energy and resources, even luck. Negotiation between and amongst nations on critical national interests is hardly a linear, one-night stand! Advance technologies of communications could help in cutting down costs of negotiations or traveling to “appropriate venues” for negotiations or consultations. But the Internet has no yet taken the place of conventional negotiations/consultations, and it may still be quite a while that face-to-face consultation may be replaced by some alternative heretofore unbeknown. The gist of my observation here is the huge danger in the free-flowing “assumptions” upon which the Commission bases its so-called “timeline” without even bothering to “sound out” the US and other countries, assuming this were possible, as to how they would react or collaborate. There is too much assuming incorporated in this “timeline” stuff. And when that happens, I am afraid to say that the “timeline” becomes a dead, fallen leaf which should be a shame given the long hours invested in generating the timeline.
Section 6(I) to submit a final report to the Legislature and the Governor containing its final findings and recommendations no later than 18 calendar months after the date the Commission becomes operational.
Concern: The final report was submitted to Legislature after the 18 calendar months, the Chuuk Political Status Commission should be dissolved nor the final report. recently, the Legislature amended this section to 23 calendar months which the final report submitted after the 23 calendar months, because of this section, the Legislature again Chuukei Chok, amended this section to 28 calendar months at the same time submitted the final report with the resolution, The CPSC already dissolved nor the final report. this section violated as stated in this section, no later than 18 calendar months/23 calendar months.
Section 6(I). Before the final report is submitted to the Legislature and the Governor, the Commission shall conduct public hearings in the 40 municipalities any place outside of Chuuk as necessary to provide the public adequate opportunity to comment on the proposed draft report.
Concern: I understand that only less than 40 municipalities conducted public hearings. Meaning this section is totally violated as stated in this section, the Commission shall conduct public hearings in the 40 municipalities.
Section 7(b). Chuukese people for adoption in a plebiscite, not earlier than 4 calendar months and not later than 6 calendar months, after its transmittal, the Chuuk State Election Commission shall cause a special plebiscite on the recommendations of the Commission to be conducted.
Concern: the plebiscite include in this March 3, 2015 is less than 4 calendar months, the final report and the resolution was passed earlier December 2015, which means the plebiscite should schedule to April 2015. Again this section totally violated as stated in this section, not earlier than 4 calendar months.
This are my concern that I raised, so if you think that this are not violated, then what the use of having the law pertaining all the section in the act?
Make some correction not December 2015 but December 2014
Ika pwe Chuuk e imwuno seni FSM, wewen pwe use chiwen tongeni angang non Pwunun U.S.
Iwe met Sokkun angang me pekin aninis ena pro-separation committee epwe ngeni ei me nei me aramas ei? Repwe fen tongeni anisi nei non sukun me aworata mongo ika ese chiwen wor ai angang ika use chiwen mwumwuta angang fan iten a siwin political status ngeni U.S.???
Thank you once again, Vid, for sharing & keeping us informed. What gets me angry, Mr. Asor, is the fact that you guys waited so long, practically down to the last minute, and then start running around like a chicken with it”s head cut off. How many years now since the compact agreement was put into place, and just now we are suddenly concern about the state of our financial affairs or the lack thereof? How many millions of dollars have been allocated to us and yet we have nothing to show for it-no tangible evidence of progress/development in our Chuuk State. If anything, I’d say we are regressing. I remember during the olden TTPI days when there was hardly any power outages on Moen, for example. The hospital was old but clean, orderly and well staffed. There were several ships available for regular field trips between the islands. Our education system was academically on a sound footing than today. Dedicated teachers taught and students learned. I could go on and on but you get my point.
My message to all of us Chuukese living abroad is to write, call, facebook etc. to our family members, friends, acquaintances and anybody else who would listen to vote NO on this separatists movement Don’t get. me wrong. .I’m all for an independent Chuuk, but only if and when the time is right. This is NOT the time!!!.
Thank you Vid, as always a very comprehensive view, couldn’t have been made any clearer. I agree, No to independant Chuuk at this stage.
Thank you, Vid for keeping us informed. I feel the same way and my vote is ‘NO’. Like Stan Sablan stated, we need to call everyone we know, get every single one involve. This affects us all.
Vid, please get a copy of the law that create the chuuk political status commission so you can see the point I raised and share with us. Time line to be include in the election at least 5 months, but to include in this coming election is less than 5 months, only 2 months prior to the election, January and February with simple majority vote.
Ammonata manawach me netipach pun pusin ewe a fori fonufan lang me masowan mi pusin uruwoni forian meinisin pun ewe fabsoun epwe arapoto nge epwe napeno osukosuuk wewe ngaw fiu anini kawet nimanau..etc…The rapture id already begun my bros sistas…Lets all bow down our head hand in hand and asked God our Forgiveness…
I agree with everybody!!…
my Vote is NO! ( big Fat NOoo!)
Thank you !!..
As a Chuukese citizen living in United States for 15 years, I do not see any benefit with Chuuk State leaving FSM. Leaving FSM means declining the Compact which has been a huge benefit to many Chuukese seeking to further their education, seeking medical help, and working stateside to help their families financially back in Chuuk.
Being able to find work Stateside without having to go through the process of getting a green card and work visa makes a big difference. There are many benefits with being a free association citizen and trying to leave FSM would change everything good that has been established for Chuukese people in the US.
Leaving FSM, would be detrimental to Chuuk. Chuukese leaders have not been able to plan out this decision and have no guarantee that the US would make a separate Compact with “The Republic of Chuuk” with the same benefits at the Compact with FSM.
I am a proud Chuukese citizen and would love to see benefits for Chuuk, but at this time with the information given it does not look like any benefits would come, just disaster.
The US has many problems of their own in the area of decisions for current immigration situations and problems with no real answer to solving the problem.
This would only add to their current immigration problems.
The process to become a separate state takes a great deal of time. The Marshall Islands took 11 years to become independent. How can Chuuk leaders think that they can make a constitution and come up with all of the details for independence in only two years without help and financial support. Where would the funds come from that are needed? Where is the agreement that the US would even support Chuuk independence??
More people will start to apply for US citizenship and leave their Chuukese Citizenship, if the leaders in Chuuk continue to show lack of concrete facts about their plans for the future.
I vote NO.
I would say or vote NO
Founding Fathers ren ei FSM re anganga non 11 years, nge ach sipwe era pun epwe mwitirino ach angang ren ei advance technologies iwe use apwungu. Tori ikenai monien RIF me Annual Leave neun chon ach we department of education mei jok jiwen on hold faniten an Neuch kei leaders “Ouwa Pusin Sinei Ami Ion Me Met Wisemi Ngeni Ei Osupwang” rese fori ururun wiser ngeni ei osupwang. Nap ngeni ekkei leaders Jon ei commission iwe iter me non ewe last communication me ren JEMCO era “Non Responsive Leaders” . Ujok era ei pwe pwata epwene Ina me mwitirin an epwe tawe ena angang won ena Chuuk Independent nge iei apwan maram ese solve enaan ekis osukosukan CDOE.
Kinisou ika mei wor omw kapaseis iwe kich mei pwan pwapwa ach sipwe answer
Vid, Thank You for keeping all of us informed. We (Chuuk Citizens) need intelligent people such as you to speak out for the rest of us who are timid to voice our concerns and opinions.
I VOTE NO!
Mwa met me weiresin non ekiekin kei chon Tol non Hawaii ren masowen ei Timezzline. Ikena January 10, 2015, non ew mwich ngrni aramasen Faichuk, incumbrnt Vise Speaker Karson Billy me Incumbent Senator Arno Kony ra pesei chon Tol pwe repwe utti yes ika uuu ren ei movement.
Iwe repwe ne fet kei aramas ika ra churi ekkei osukosuk me feiengaw ouwa isetiw ikenai?
Iwe kinisou ngonuk Vid pwan en Amafen Keiwo S. William, ren ami aninis ren ami affat kich ren ekkei poraus.
Pwipwi Sabi, fiti chienom, ouse mochen etiwa ach we tungor ngeni kemi non ami we mwich ngerni chon Chuuk non Honolulu, ren ami oupwe ne mo nikitano ei ekiek non ei fansoun, nge oupwe ne anganga kana mettoch mei auchea epwe akkom. Such as kinamwein nefinen nouwis, aramas, me anganga fefeita non fonuwach me mwen sipwe uuta. Kinisou chapur.
Pokiten ngang seni kemi, pwan ngang ngeni kemi, pwan ngang remi, iei popun upwe wesewesen tingor ngeni kemi chon ai we kinikin non northern namoneas ren, weno, piis-paneu me fonoton ika ouse kan mochen sipwe tipeew ach sipwe vote no ngeni ewe mokutukut, pun ina ach ngasano ren nesor me ponon.
I need to share one of my concern regarding the CPSC report, In that report at the end all signature has been signed by each member, except one of our most best economist in chuuk did not sign, I wonder why he did not sign! Maybe something wrong.!. When I asked, I was told that he did not agree with the report and I agree with him that is why I vote no to the report and the resolution.
Kilisou semei keiwo wiliam ren mefiom kei meinisin mi fokun pung me wenewen
Upwe vote NO!!!
Nge upwe achikimas ngeni Yes…
And the next thing we heard Chuuk as been sold to the Russian.
i vote NAAAPPP which mean “No damn way”
I vote NO!
This is concerning CHUUK and its people’s future.
Tirou fiti sufon wom, Semach atefon Mr. Excuse Sananap,
Inamo ika ngang Fan-Cool sap chon Faichuuk region, use pwan vote non om na district nge, ” seceding from our federation ;FSM) today, right now is a suicidal act.. With the very poor condition Chuuk state has and with premature, unclear path our Commission and local politicians display, a vote “YES” is murderous..!!
Kose mochen upwe tungor kopwe sopwei om pochokun as a ( TRUE) leader ne educate pwan pesei pwe ika ke vote (yes) iwe ew waten disaster mi afeiengaw oh anoninen ngeni kich chon Chuuk..
Ese wesen pwung ekkena nouwis repwe pesei ena ekiek nge mi fatangaw.. What have Mr. Billy & Mr. Kony done to the people and island of Faichuuk.? Is faichuuk developed,do they have good schools, do they have good dispensaries,have they do e anything to help reduce the crimes if faichuuk??
Maybe they are the engines of those crimes.!!
Tirou sefan wom semach ate-mirit.!
Esap chok Faichuukese repwe affected if they vote “Yes” nge pwan en me ngang ika aramasen Chuuk unus..
Even some legislators are damn corrupted..!
RUN! RUN NOW TO THE U.S AND HAVE AS MANY BABIES AS YOU CAN! PRAY THEY GROW UP IN TIME TO HIDE YOU AND TAKE CARE OF YOU WHEN IRS AND U.S CUSTOMS IS OUT LOOKING FOR YOU!
It would be wise/better if you don’t ekitiratiw ekkena semirit…how can you support them with this horrible economy.?? Wait for a few more years..lol
Don’t encourage them to do so…ill advise .?
I vote NO!!!.and Thank you Vid for this post and information you have shared.Although I am a U.S citizen and too young to understand this kinds of situation I do know one or two things.I know for a fact that Chuuk citizens are still standing because if the help of the U.S.I also know that many chuukese citizens have jobs and a better life here in the U.S.I like to encourage all chuukese to vote agains this.I am full pure chuukese and very proud of my race,but on the reals if chuuk could stand on its own two feet than we would not have the needs to leave our island and find a better living.Also I like to point out the chuuk citizend that are already living in the U.S, already building a life in the U.S, can our leaders promise them that they can still continue their lives here while the vote is still going on?can they guarantee that its worth the risk and all the hard work?can they put faith n hope that it will be okay to pack up all their family and everything they work hard for and leave?..All I have to say is Where is the plan?What are your guarantees?and how will you make it work?…WE ALL LIKE TO KNOW BECAUSE WHAT YOU GIVE US IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH..AND NOT WORTH LOSING MY PARENTS AND BROTHER FOR!!!I NEED OR BETTER YET WE NEED TO BE CONVINCE.!!
#Tulsa OK votes NO!!!
We are doing the right thing, I VOTE YES to INDEPENDENCE!!!!
Ouwa Chok ekieki ami tufich me ena epek, nqe osupwanq fenuach Chuuk,
What do you mean by, “Osupwang fenuach Chuuk?” Ese eoch mwo tawengenir ei osukosuk fiti osupwang Chuuk mi mwomwotuni iei, nge pwat epwene ina an epwe tawe ngenir ar repwe do the negotiating? With all due respect, If they can’t recognize the problems Chuuk faces now or even start working to resolve such issues, what makes you think they will work on resolving them IF Chuuk actually becomes a so called nation on its own?
Tirow wom pwan omusano nge ewer mi fen pung reom mwa MymyPfisu. I totally agree that our island is osupwang. and I wish we are enough to go independence. But in reality we need Help. and I rather get help from the U.S than to be miserable and vulnerable under the protection of another country. I think we can be independenceone day iif only chuuk improve too. Right now we are on the edge of falling apart and we need Help!!
Im sorry im only saying n being realistic about the situation.
Can you be more specific…detailed what you mean by ” right thing to do”
Enlighten my world..a bit lost.!
Thank You.!
I am an American/Pohnpeian married to a Chuukese from Weno. This idea of independence from the FSM shouldn’t concern me really, but I am typing this while thinking thinking about my wife who I have a son with. I hope the leaders who are behind this understand fully the consequences of their actions, and to say that they will enter into a new compact with the U.S. Government without first getting a written guarantee from Uncle Sam first is selfish and disrespectful. The U.S. has problems of their own & they will look at Chuuk’s credibility from past COFA agreements with the FSM if secession does happen-It might NOT fare well with them once reality sets in. Chuuk state has a pattern of misusing funds and being to Chuuk 3 times myself, I can tell you not much has changed. A capital of 4-6 million made in Chuuk isn’t enough to run a government let alone, provide services to its people like education, medical, & infrastructure projects just to name a few.
I really hope that that the “separatist” leaders really think this thru because what you do now really echoes into eternity. I really do want a self governing Chuuk because who wouldn’t? But facts on the ground really say that now isn’t the time for that.
Keiuo S. William- Hanq up
Ika pwe mei wor om osukosuk fanitei pwata kose pwarano non saram pwe sipwe sinek en io. Ngang emen chon angang ngeni an kot ei muu faniten aramas, iwe iei popun upwe pochokun non ai memef pokiten kot mi mut ngeniei upwe emon noun chon angangen an ei muu. Iwe en io upwe kan tongeni era upwe Hang-up?
Sise kan opa kich ren ekkei sakun osupwang nge ika pwe en mei wesewesen tongei chuuk faniten ena wewe, iwe kopwe usun ekkei chon ei Chuuk Political Status Commission pwe rese opa meser seni met ei ar mochen.
Pwan fokkun omusano ai tipis ika pwe kosap sani mefiei, nge ita sipwe fetei nge iei met wisei meren kot.Upwe wisen representini ai we kinikin.
Immature! Is that the way of implying,or representing on your side? Poor thing!
Can you be more specific on the “right thing” to do.? What are the right thing(s)?
Help me out here, kinda lost in the wilderness..enlighten my world..!
Way to go Vid!! A definite NO from this end!
Does any member of the CPSC has or ever participate,lead or interact in any form of negotiation with other foreign country(s).?
What are their (any member) political accomplishment(s) that they would be so proud of.?
Can we know some of their political history?
Can we trust them to do a great successful negotiation and go on and build a better Republic of Chuuk ?
Anyone??
I am no politician. I am just an ordinary citizen trying to live and make it through day by day. So I will not speak politics but just voice my concerns in plain words.
You can’t just up and run a marathon without having done the trainings and and without having the the proper equipments (running gears) on. You also gotta be physically fit and well equipped or else you will definately not make it to the finish line due to injury or worse yet death.
Why does Chuuk State want to pull out from the FSM and draft and negotiate its own COFA with the US? Are there any ADDITIONAL gains or benefits it will get if it is on its own with the US? If so, provide us with those so we look at both sides and both the pros and cons and do our own analysis.
Why do we want a Republic of Chuuk now when we got nothing to prove we are ready but assumptions and I would say fantasies? Why are we rushing? Why don’t we establish all the necessary means needed to be on our own first then act on in WHEN we have them ready on deck?
I will NOT jump off a “cliff” with you if you asked me so and told me there’s water beneath but I see sharp-edged rocks. I WILL NOT!!!
If we can’t unravel the web of issues (road, school and health systems,…) we have been having for ages, how can we leap over to a far and unrealistic (at least for now) “thingy”?
Don’t rush; plan carefully. Think a million times before you deceit your people. Talk realistic.
I will vote “Yes” on this movement WHEN I know we are ready. For now, I will manually add another voting option on the ballot that says, “Heck No!!!!”
100% agree with you! I recently attended a meeting on Guam regarding this movement and I found it rather disappointing. I don’t understand what the driving factor is for Chuuk to seek independence. I don’t see how pulling away is going to help resolve our many issues. I don’t see how staying with the Federation would also help our islands. Our leaders did not provide the pros and cons for seeking independence and they didn’t provide a legitimate response when asked “what would happen if US and the FSM say no to this movement?”…I think this movement for independence should be given more time for planning. We are not ready!
For your information, the legal issue over the Chuuk State Movement is now being researched on both sides, from the Commission and from the FSM Department of Justice.
If you followed earlier postings on this subject, you would recall that during our earlier hearing on Uman, I told the people of Uman that the Chuuk AG Office does not want to declare the constitutionality of the Movement because it is not the Chuuk AG’s Office that will give out the final declaration; it is the FSM Supreme Court. If you also note from earlier postings, the Commission has already stated its legal position that the FSM Constitution does not expressly prohibit a state from seceding from the FSM Federation. ( The lawyers now constructively advising the Commission on the constitutional issue are: Chuuk AG; Chuuk LC; Commissioner Meippen and Mr Jack Frits who the Legislature and some commissioners consult on such issues).
So, the Commission’ and Chuuk’s position is that, until the Supreme Court makes a declaration, Chuuk will go on its present position. Last month, the Chuuk State Governor and Senate President met with President Mori at coffee in Pohnpei. Chuuk Independence was among the several topics of discussion. President Mori naturally restated his opposition to the Independence Movement. Chuuk State understands part of the President Mori’s opposition is that he took his Oath of Office to defend and uphold the FSM Constitution. The Chuuk leaders assured the President it is not a disrespect for Chuuk to begin seeking Independence while President Mori has a few months left in Office. Chuuk needs to seek secession and Independence before 2023 come into effect. At about the same meeting in Pohnpei, the Chuuk leaders were also told that the FSM Department of Justice has started researching the constitutional issues surrounding secession. So with both Chuuk and the FSM taking opposite sides of the constitutional issue, there is bound to be some litigation between March 2015 and 2023.
If you note on the “Commission Timeline” discussed in Hilo and carried on Vid Raatior’s website and youtube.com, there was reference for the need for Chuuk and FSM to straighten out some matters after the March 2023 plebiscite. If Chuuk votes YES in March 2025, one of the things for Chuuk to do is to seek resolution of the constitutional question after March 2015 and before we can finally vote on secession and independence say, for example, in 2017. (If the vote in 2017 is YES, then all functions of government that need to be transitioned, like i.e. passports and the right remain in the US, will be transitioned from FSM citizenship to Chuukese citizenship based on negotiations with the FSM and the US from after March 2015). That is the Commission’s current position on the constitutional question. We have adopted a position that we know is contrary to the FSM’s position, and we will continue moving forward until the FSM Supreme Court says no, or to the extreme, despite what the FSM Supreme Court says, if there is support for Chuuk in the International community.
During the recent Commission hearing in Honolulu, FSM Congressman Bonsiano Nethon, (Democrat from Southern Namoneas), asked if the FSM Congress would also have to vote on Chuuk’s secession like it did on the question of Faichuk’s statehood. Unfortunately, because of lack of internal consultation among Commissioners before the hearing, the Commission had a split answer: some said “YES”; some said “NO.” I think, if the Commission has to be consistent with its adopted legal position that the FSM Constitution DOES NOT PROHIIBIT a state secession, then the answer should have been no!
So, that is where the legal question stands as of this moment in Chuuk’s Independence Movement. For the Commission, it is one of those issues that need to be resolved after a YES vote in March 2015 between Chuuk and the FSM.
To summarize the Movement as of this stage: Jan-Feb, 2015, final public hearings in and out of Chuuk; (Feb. 2015 Chuuk Leadership Conference at which time Chuuk’s leaders will be asked to support the Secession Recommendation) March 2015: plebiscite If the vote is YES, then:
Chuuk State will establish a Constitutional Convention to draft an Independence Constitution for Chuuk to be voted on by the people in the next years.
At the same time, Chuuk will seek to resolve legal and financial and governmental issues (i.e. Passport transition; EEZ boundaries proposals, etc) with FSM;
……………………..to seek/resolve Trust Fund issue with US and the FSM;
……………………..Negotiate with US for a separate Compact of Free Association between Chuuk and the US under which separate Compact, Chuukese people in the US can be able to remain and live, work, attend school in the US, like at the present; continued diplomatic and security assistance; etc.
if the March 2015 vote is NO, then Chuuk might reconsider next steps….
If the March 2015 vote is YES, as illustrated above, then the referendum is scheduled and held; If the referendum is YES, Chuuk will be independent with all of the transitions of governmental functions, see above, taking place before 2023, and some, like membership in the UN, after 2023.
On the question If Chuuk is going to be “aligned” with China? Our Commission has stated during hearings in unequivocal terms that Chuuk will seek to secede from the FSM BUT will try to secure a separate Compact relationship with the US. (so that all the chuukese people currently in the US are able to continue to enjoy the benefits of such a Compact relationship)
In addition to a separate Compact relations with the US, Chuuk will also seek to maintain diplomatic and economic other relations with China, with Japan, South Korea, with the EU countries, with the Pacific Forum countries, with everybody on the planet, including Israel and Saudi Arabia, and even Ukraine and the Vatican City, why not?
Now if there are people out there who dislike or distrust any present members of the commission, what can we say? As I posted earlier, please tell us, we can resign from the Commission, but hopefully the work for Chuuk Secession and Independence will go on.
For those who say Chuuk does not deserve secession and independence because $800 million dollars have been squandered by generations of Chuukese people and leaders, please do not try to hold Chuuk down because of past mistakes when the consequence of inaction for Chuuk State after 2023 is a $21 million revenue shortfall and a catastrophic economic depression for the chuukese people.
For all those Chuukese out there, Chuuk will make sure to seek a continued Compact relationship with the US for your sake, and we ask that you reciprocate the same love and consideration by allowing Chuuk in March 2025 to take the necessary step for secession for the sake of the Chuukese people now living in Chuuk. After March 2015, there are still opportunities to work together for mutual survival, yours and ours.
Mutuality of Interests, as Henry Kissinger said, is what motivates nations like Chuuk and the US to work together for reciprocal relationships (i.e. like the US and Russia to create a Détente’), like a separate Compact of Free Association. The Commission is sure there is sufficient mutual interests for both Chuuk and the US to continue a separate Compact relationship alongside a separate FSM-US Compact relationship.
All it takes, so to speak in accounting terms, is just some kind of transfer of accounts, from one account into a newly-established separate account. Thank you all for your patience with Chuuk.
After all, IEI CHUUK! This is the one and only Chuuk that the Lord created for all of us. Love it and save it. VOTE YES.
On what ground,you think,after many decades of generous assistance FSM received from the US, and the horrible misuse of compact funds,guaranteed you and your Republic of Chuuk a fair negotiation ?
I never heard of a democrat in Chuuk…he might be an independent or more of a republican..who stands against Immigration and fair health-care for the people.!
Tell me any accomplishment your Democrat Congressman Nethon have done to help the people of Chuuk, have he fought for better health-care and fast development for the islands.?
I’ve heard of meippen and fritz,your LC..former candidate and former congressman who great history of corruption..are they lawyers or liars.?
Stop living in another fantasy world.. All of your points are totally based on “”””ASSUMPTIONS”””
No hard-copies, no pre-negotiation dates & time, no appointment scheduled, no notes of justification to sum up/support your claim for a negotiation with my country..
Lawyers prefer hard evidence,but not verbal and assumptions..you failed all these criteria,start all over again.!
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All pullshits, all the leaders in Chuuk. You all should be ashame of the way the state center looks, it’s totally the dirthies and uglies island of all Micronesia. Why.? Because everyone or every island of Chuuk dumped their mess or abuse it, iwe ekena nouwis seni different islands should all work together to fix Weno, pun after all, that’s where your leadership role started.. So why not clean it, fix it up, make it rich with the money you think you have, then maybe we can start showing off. there’s an old saying goes,”the looks of your surrounding is representing how you live and how you think.” So you all clean out your minds and use the money wisely. stop manipulating chamwen ekena poor people especialy ekena ese wor ar voice pun rese kan we we ina owa chok atamar. Pwata ose fori factories pun epwe wor an aramas angang, pwata ose akieta niwinin chon angang pun aramas repwe pwapwaiti kemi. Pwata ose afor ngeni chon hawaii me guam ren momon soma an epwe tour ngeni Chuuk.’!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Q. What’s in it for them members of commission ? How much $$ you folks make while doing all them hearing outside chuuk.
I learned from Mr William saying 40 municipalies not all 40 get the public hearing. Is it because there is no miles rewards?
As a citizen I want # Per Diem, Tickets prices. You folks are wiser.
$$$ what soufonu worry no more money coming in after 2023.
Well I can go on and on my point
Leaders getting richer citizens stay poor. What’s gets me is most members are The current Governor’s supports . Is it a funky move just so that after March and they will still make money?
LOL you give assumption and we honest Question
$250.000 was on the table at the Chuuk corrupt legislature to be appropriate for the Commission.
Not all islands in our state have received any meeting or form of education from this CPSC..the ones that they ( CPSC ) visited,were only visited once..compare to Hawaii, they visited twice already-November 2014 & January 2015..
And yes,traveling on the boat won’t jack-up their mileage rewards, therefore they send less member to any island in the state. But there were 10 of ’em came to Hawaii..
Chuuk state is going insane…!
Tirow womi ekkena ouwa akom mwei ne poporous pwan tori ami kena oupwene tapweto Mwiri. Omusano pwe upwene kan pwan Watiw met ekkei ukan ani nuokusan non Ai uwa rongorong me won Facebook, tori non an aramas fofos ika comments, pwan met uwa pusin Kuna me won YouTube ren ei ekiek ach sipwene tou seni FSM iwe sia pusin utta won muuch. Upwene makei Ai kei kapas eis non Ai anean pwe epwe wor punuwan akawin me ren nouch kewe ra wisen mesemes won ei akot me ekiek ren fonuwach Chuuk.
1. Usun sia fen sinei pwe non 2023 an Merika aninis ngeni kich won pekin moni Epwene kouno. Iwe met ei uwa sach non, ika pwe pusin Merika ei e ekieketa pwe Epwene Wes ne anisi FSM ( which we are part of now) ren pekin moni iwe pwat epwe Mochen anisi kich? What do we have to offer the United States ren an repwe aniskich? Use fen weweiti pwat ou ekieki pwe repwe anisikich Mwirin ra fen Atawei ngeni kich tori chienach kewe pwe resap chuwen anisi kich comes 2023.
2. Kapas awewe ika pwe sia vote fan March, iwe chon Chuuk ra nguri pwe sipwene tou seni FSM iwe sia utta won muuch. Iwe nouch kewe chon tungor ra poputa ne tungor nge en muun Merika epwe anisi kich NGE ra ura pwe Apw (no resap anisi kich). Iwe aiei kapas eis…. met sipwene for? Let just say pwe sia fen tou seni ewe muun FSM. Iwe met ami okot ngeni kich ika pwe Merika epwe ura pwe NO ngeni ach na tungor?
3. Mei wor met ou sinei iei ouwa men pochokun pwe Merika epwe chok anisi kich? Non Ai kakaton ekkewe videos won YouTube ren ami kewe mwich Hawaii pwe ami mei nukui pwe Merika epwe chok anisi kich. One of the comment From Mr. Bisalen non an ponuweni ew kewe kapas eis emon ekkewe citizen of Chuuk e eis. E ura pun ” Merika ese tongeni DENY ini ach ena tungor (with a smile) iwe a pwan sopweno ne era pwe they have a card ir mei tongeni play. Ouse Mochen afata kich met sokkun noumi na card ou ani osousou?
Epwene mwo iei chok pwe uwa kan pwan mefi Ai tipis pwan namanamtekia ne fosetam.
Kinisou pwan Tirow sefan
The code of silence/ secrecy
The code of bad government must be deciphered & broadcast…We’ve suffered enough.!
Weaknesses,confusions and false hope nested with the CPSC..
Here’s what the chairman had said in above post, Jan 14,2015..
1) Legal issues over Chuuk state movement is “NOW” being researched with both CPSC & Fsm Dept. Justice.
NOTE:
The word “now”-can be at the present time..as of January 2015, but research/ studies should have started at least a year ago.
2) The lawyers ( AG, Meippen & Jack Fritz) “NOW” constructively advising CPSC on constitutional issues.
NOTICE #2.
Again the word “now”-present time,as of January 2015..correct chuukese word is ” Ange-Pachik”
3) Last month, Chuuk leaders met with President Mori in PNI.
CLARIFICATION:
Last month refers to December 2014.. Shows the denial and lack of good government /bad relationship.
4) At about same meeting in PNI, Chuuk leaders were told, FSM Justice Dept just started researching constitutional issue..
CLARIFICATION #2.
Same meeting( December 2014)..about 2 months prior to Chuuk Election Day..proper word, ” chuukei-chok”
5) Asked on weather FSM congress have to vote on Chuuk secession,some said, yes and others said no”
JUSTIFICATION:
Weakness,confusion,lack of knowledge and unprepared..
6) I ” THiNK” if CPSC has to be consistent with its adopted legal position; FSM constitution doesn’t prohibit a state to secede/independent..answer is “no.
NOTICE:
He used the word ” Think” ( uncertain,not so sure,or doubtful ) tipe-mwaramwar.
Shows the lack of certainty..it’s a weakness..low-self-confidence.. [ I will and we will are positivity,firm and bold]
7) Final Public Hearing (February 2015) Chuuk leadership conference. Leaders will be ” ASKED to SUPPORT” the secession recommendation.
NOTE:
Asked to support= forced leaders to vote yes..leaders not fully aware of the consequences..
8) $800 million dollars have been squandered by generations of ” CHUUKESE PEOPLE” & leaders.
NOTE:
Blaming on chuukese people who suffered because of their ( officials ) bad actions?
Sabino,himself was a former FSM congress.. He talked about squandering funds,,well, in other post, he jokingly said Fefanese asked congressman Bonsiano Nethon for RICE, Turcky-tail, Sewing machine and everything at the SNRA office..and that is the real example of ” misusing Of Compact Funds”
9) To speak in accounting terms; transferring from one account into a newly-established seperate account..old FSM to new ROC..
CAUTION:
Old dirty politicians,same old problems.! My accounting term is, ” transferring funds into a new Ghost-Account”
10) IEI Chuuk:
MORE INFO,,
We do love Chuuk, the land of our forefathers, but we hate the length of corruptions propelled by our own politicians..!
Kinisou Chapur.!
Separatists, ever heard of the saying? “Don’t bite the hand that feeds you”
because that is what your are doing now. Even just these thoughts or ideas alone are already generating a lot of concerns for chuukese people, not just the ones in the U.S. but the ones in chuuk as well because this “movement” is a BIG deal and will affect every chuukese.
Please also know i am saying all these will fully due respect to our leaders. but although i am just a 20 year old 3 year university student, it is like even i, myself can picture the consequences for this act of separation. i just finished watching the two videos and found out that even our president is against this movement. as a student i believe this movement will affect us greatly as well, probably ending up with ineligibility for scholarships or whatsoever from both the U.S and F.S.M
so from a student’s point of view, specifically CHUUKESE students, are willing to sacrifice our education for this assumption based movement? if you are then why or how in the world can you think that chuukese or F.S.M students will support this? these are just thoughts from a concerned chuukese mind. WE ARE FSM, we’re supposed to be working together here. i am proud as a chuukese F.S.M citizen.
so Mr. Vid i’ll agree with you. my vote is a NO. with no disrespect to the comission of course. i am sure you are doing what you think is right. but just a notice., this is scaring and freaking chuukese out.
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Only In Chuuk
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Only idiot chuukese
Tirou fiti Omusomus pwi2x Trukese ren kappas..!!
Among the four ( 4 ) states, Chuuk is the worst..
* misused Compact funds
* no transparency
* no accountability
Chuuk has a filthy history of corruption..
We continue severely damage our reputation.
If we cannot safe ourselves while with the FSM, what makes you think we can do better in a Republic of Chuuk ?
You think Americans are fools?
Decades of ” Firiokich ” our kirimwai politicians & you expect US to give you a “”fair deal”
We are known in the world as the most kirimwas,kirimwas, kirimwasawas..” Politicians-states & congressmen..
Sabino said: They’ll give you rice,turcky-tail, sewing-machine, motor-engine,coffee,beer and etc.. So in-return, you vote for congressman [ Nethon ] southern region..and the other dirty politicians..
This is why our Chuuk is f***ed up..
We must stop this and tell them we are not that freakin cheap.!
Vote for the right people to nukuwai wach ei ” Tame-Seni” a kokotiw non ei meseiset mi napanap.!
Kinisou.!
Chuuk, not this time….
I STRONGLY DISAGREE TO THE IDEA THAT CHUUK WILL STAND ON IT OWN PLEASE
I SAID NOOOO TO THIS ONE WE SHOULD BE THANKFUL TO THE UNTIED STATES FOR THERE HELP
The money,that concerns the commission…they sound like their part of the illuminatis..
Vote no. .this is the illuminati act…
$250.000…tax payers money was on the Chuuk legislators table ready to be appropriated for this communists-commission…while this stupid CPSC enjoys that huge amount of money,thousands of chuukese are suffering..
Chuuk minimum wage is unbelievably .90 cent per hour..
Government employees work for 82 hours in two (2) wks, although they only paid for 72 hours…
If you buy a bag of Apple for $1.25, you have to work for two (2) hours just to be able to buy that bag of Apple..
Chuuk legislators appropriate $$$ for themselves-( housing allowance ) $40.000 each one of ’em..!
This is reality,this is the truth,this is what the greedy legislators been doing..!
A Republic Of Chuuk with the same old kirimwas wannabe politicians, will result in the same old PROBLEMS..!
The CPSC point fingers at the FSM national & United States, claiming they are the problems..well..let’s be smart, Chuuk politicians are the freaking problems..
Soo please vote NO.!
i do not know if I read it right but did the Hon. Asor just mentioned that our Hon. Governor said that even after Chuuk votes YES, and then later on finds that it is going down the wrong path that Chuuk would then backtrack and be part again of the Federation? That is a total disgrace for Chuukesr if that is your plan.
Omg! What?! Did i just read that Sabino wrote If It is not going well or in other words, if the ROC doesn’t do better or it’s not successful in its assumptions, down the road, then it will cry back to the FSM Nation to get its place again? U gotta be kidding me. Its easy to leave without a good reason, but its hard to come back, with an nonsense excuse. Why did i just see a doubt, and a inconfident, in that comment? I had read enough and i understant a lot of concerns, and plenty humongous reasons of why I need to Vote. Therefore I am going with a GIANT, GIAGANTIC NO!
Thanks everyone, tirou omusano, ROC, not this time. Maybe nest time.
All the Chuukese voters must VOTE YES! In the end, it will be good for all Chuukese.. Don’t worry about USA assistance. You all Chuukese can do it on your own without USA! Good time for a better Chuuk.! VOTE YES! VOTE YES! VOTE YES! VOTE YES! VOTE YES!
I won’t vote Yes to somethinG i dont comprehend. Please Chuukese Vote NO.
Keiuo S. William, fakkun kinisou chapur ngonuk ren omw awenechara ngeni aramas met mi pung sipwe weweiti. Ikena ekkena sakkun nouwis si fakkun aneanei sipwe nounou non Chuuk mi wenechar. Amo pwe chIechiom kana repwe pwan fituk pwe aufin me ren aramas ami aupwe angang fan itach me fan itan fonuach, Pwata en chok ke kuna ena osukosuk? Nge chiechiom kana rese kuna? Anean pwe chon omw we kinikin Weno, Pis, me Fono ke tupunir repwe weweiti me sinei ne fituk omw kese tipeew ngeni ena mokutukut an Chuuk epwe uta.
Kinisou iei upwene afata ngonuk pwe en nei nouwis forever..,
Kinisou chapur ngonuk rofa ren om weweiti mokutukutuch non fansoun meinisin, uwa men aneanei pwe Chuuk epwe finioch noun nouwis fan March 3, 2015 pwe ikenair mine repwe sapweno ne kukuta met fonuwach chuuk epwe kinamwe ren.
Siamen atapwan ne mweteri ekkei sakun muu, nge ese pwak ngeni kich ach ei an won fonuwach ei weno. Ita ururun pwe ekkei ekis moni mi wor, sipwe fokkun nounouoch ngeni ach sipwe kuta met fonuwach epwe fefeita ren nge esap ach sipwe nouni ngeni ekkoch metoch esap develop ren fonuwach.
Kot ese mour, pun mei kuna om riafou me osupwang, Jesus meets us in the ordinariness in life, Jesus is considerate to our needs and Jesus shows compassion towards us.
There’s nothing nicer than basking in the glory of a job well done, Sometimes, we can spend a long time on a particular project or put a lot of effort into something and when it all goes well, we want to kick back, relax and enjoy the moment. God knows that Chuuk is not ready.
Rep. Keiuo, for real? How could that be? I doubt it… How can it be possible to have a plebiscite this March 2015 knowing that the final report is just being adopted by chuuk state legislature last December 2014 way less than what is required by law.
Mr. Taxiwom aka AG Sabinor Asor, may i humbly request your enlightenment with regards to what being claimed by Rep. Keiuo. We know that you are a very busy man, but this is a very serious matter that need to be clarified once and for all
Byway of this request may I also request a clarification from the Legislature LC Mr. Brian D with regards to the legality of the plebiscite as claimed by my honorable Rep. Keiuo
One last request, pwipwi Commisioner Sabinor Asor. I am very sorry to say this but I really don’t like you. Please resign, mwurino siongaw mwan epinoch… Pwan usun en mi pukun apasa just let you guys know. Tirow ren memefssss….
men fokkun pwung ren keiwo plz vote nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo……
Thats nice and pretty
But I don’t really believe in it ill
call a dream toy
for my self ill vote no
thank you.
Vote No!…. CHUUK your not ready yet
Chuuk is not ready yet to be independent.. We still need time to think… “Together we stand divided we fall” we’re not sure about doing things that can lead us to the DEATH END…
I VOTE NO!!!!
I agree with Vid on this subject. I am a young Chuukese U.S. Citizen and here is my opinion.
In my opinion, I think that all the Chuukese should vote no, because Chuuk is not ready for this chaos that will be heading their way, if the majority votes yes. I’ve done some research on this and I am really worried. After all this time, you (The Commissioners) finally think that it’s time for you to start of on your own? NO!!!! If you would’ve did some research on your own history, then we wouldn’t be in this situation that you call a SOLUTION….Like seriously? Who saved you while Japan was bombing, killing, kidnapping, etc. you? The U.S,! I know it was in the past, but you should think about that. The President wouldn’t have sent soldiers to that island if he didn’t care, he would’ve just left us dying and suffering, but NO he did what he thought was right! The president saved us because he knew people that didn’t do anything to get included into the fight was not right, they also saved others. We wouldn’t be here without them.
Once more, YOU ARE NOT READY TO FACE THE PROBLEMS THAT ARE WAITING TO COME!
I think that everything that you (The Commissioners) think is right is just based off the greed and all those bad things that has taken over your mind. Stop taking the Chuukese people’s money for your own needs and think about what you are about to do. Just because your having trouble with everything like your financial crap doesn’t mean you should drag everyone else down with you. Maybe you should think about what our people needs instead about what you need. DO SOME FLIPPING RESEARCH AND LOOK INTO THE HISTORY!
That would be all, oh and I will say once more that I agree with Vid and the others that believe that Chuuk is not ready. I thank Vid and those people for they at least are thinking straight and they are also thinking about our people and not themselves.
Let’s hope God will help us and them with that situation.
Sign me up for a huge NO
And Vid and others I would like to help with this, so please tell me anything about what I can do to help.
Thank You
Thank You and I will do that.
Let’s hope that God is on our side and that he helps us through this situation.
Thanks again!
Vid, any new updates or info. regarding the CPSC ?
I’ve seen a few exchanged jabs between former FSM President HE Mori and Sabino on fb regarding CPSC recent movement posted by Sabino..
I found it very interesting that our beloved Chuuk State is almost always involved in any kind of political movement, ranging from;
*Chuuk state seceds the FSM
*Chuuk state taxes its citizens living abroad
*FSM ends the Compact with Chuuk Congressmen supporting it.
But yet they lack to address the most problem facing our leaders in chuuk, ( lack of transparency and zero accountability )
When are we going to change and make our Chuuk State great again?
I know right?
When is this dream going to come true?
Maybe just maybe it will come true soon…….
But while that dream is on hold, we Chuukese people all over the world should just keep working on how to stop this MADNESS!!
I don’t understand why the commissioners don’t understand that it’s not time to start over from scratch, to separate from the U.S., or something else that does not have to be happen.
Maybe someone managed to put black magic on the commissioners. (Not that I believe, but it’s kind of the only thing that may have caused this mess. My mother warned me of this. She told me, ” As long as you don’t believe in it, you have nothing to worry about.” From then on, I haven’t believed in it, but she still tells me stories of black magic.)
But seriously, maybe some did cast black magic on them……I don’t know, but you guys don’t have to believe me for what I’m saying for I am only stating my opinions on this subject.
Thank You people for reading and keep SPEAKING your mind!
We have to figure out more ways on how to persuade those commissioners that they are not thinking properly and what they are about to do is on not the solution for anyone. Once again let’s all pray to God and hope that he helps us in this situation.